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Friday, November 25, 2016

Them - The Complete Them 1964-66 - v2.0 Revisited by Prof. Stoned 2016
























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48 comments:

Prof. Stoned said...

No, I usually don't pirate commercially available source material....

This one is gonna have to be the one exception, and for a good reason: the official release is a lot less good without my additions & revisionism.

If you are reading this, you probably already have downloaded my separate Them releases "The Lost Decca Tapes" and "The Decca Vintage Stereo Tapes 1964-66". This new release puts those two together with the official 2015 release on Sony Legacy.

Once again, I'm not happy with the fact that I'm copying a readily available official release. But it's more important that a few people get to hear the compilation in this much improved form.

Spread it 'round if you can!

Jaenes Q Records said...

Thanks! The Definitive Them and my new one-stop shop for a Them fix!

YankeeBoy said...

Thank you. Thank you. THANK YOU!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for doing it right.

Didn't Andrew Sandoval produce the "definitive" set? For someone who considers himself an "expert", he sure makes a lot of stupid and clueless mistakes. I'll never understand why he is so highly revered.

anchovyarchives said...

Nice one Prof !
Many thanks
AA

Anonymous said...

Thanks a lot

Anonymous said...

it's really wonderfull priceless work. thank you VERY MUCH!!!

Prof. Stoned said...

> Didn't Andrew Sandoval produce the "definitive" set?

He did fine. He worked with what was in the tape archives, choose all the correct (mono) masters that were available to him, and did not make an stupid mistakes like the compilers of the 90's anthology.

Having said that, his new mixes aren't that. I think he should have left the actual mixing job to someone more experienced, while he could have supervised. But even then, he would probably have had the tendency to put Morrison's voice up too loud.

Also, the fact that he was apparently not aware of little oddities like the uncensored "Little Girl" & the unedited "I like it like that", tells me his interest for Them is nowhere near as great as his love for the Monkees.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for all the great work on this Prof!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your persistent striving for perfection, Prof!

tambler

Anonymous said...

Unbelievable research as usual. Thank you!

Lloyd Miller said...

Thanks as always to the good Professor

warpig said...

Thanks very much for this fine collection.

Anonymous said...

> Also, the fact that he was apparently
> not aware of little oddities like the
> uncensored "Little Girl" & the
> unedited "I like it like that",
> tells me his interest for Them is
> nowhere near as great as his love
> for the Monkees.

You're giving him way too much credit. His Monkees releases are loaded with mistakes too. Incorrect mixes, "newly discovered" tapes that sound worse than previous sources, bad needledrops, bad remixes, mono sources loaded with stereo glitches, important things "held over" for future releases, etc...

He also harassed people for weeks on facebook to participate in an expensive blu-ray box set pre-order, and then the final product was not anything close to what was promised...in content and construction. Rhino had to deal with piles and piles of returns and refunds. Then he turned off his facebook account so people couldn't contact him about it. That was when I decided that he is a jerk, and I am not buying any more of his "product". He is nothing more than a record company shill, "disguised" as one of us. Nothing more, nothing less.

Anonymous said...

Thanks prof, very nice job.

aaron rumpza said...

Wow Prof. Fantastic! Thank you very much for this updated inclusive version, it makes things easier for the rest of us. Your labor of love does not go unappreciated. Thanks a ton!

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much, Prof.! Unbelievable, painstakingly researched and mastered. What an achievement! However, when burning the 3-CD-Set, I ran into two problems. First: On the burned CD 2, all tracks appear only as "Untitled" when I start my media player (which is VU Player). On CD 1, everything's OK, all track names are correctly displayed. Second problem: When I try to burn the 3rd CD, my burning software (which is CDBurner XP) tells me the 27 tracks need 84 Minutes and 36 Seconds(2 seconds pause between tracks included), which unfortunately is even beyond the overburning capacity I can handle (82 Mins, 42 Secs). Prof., can you check this?

Anonymous said...

The last track on CD3 is a non-CDR bonus. There's another mix of this same take on CD3 which sounds better anyway, so no big loss. The other thing is a problem with your burning software, since all files have the same metadata. PS

Anonymous said...

Very informative notes along with excellent sound! Thanks so much for all the research and hard work assembling this great collection.

Anonymous said...

all the kindest thanks for the music and investigations, Prof.Stoned.
Your efforts always like a true sorcery

sherri said...

Thank You So Much For All You Do.I Wouldn't And Others Who Know Your Work Believe That You Pirated A Commercially Product.I'm With You About The importance of The Music. I Feel Respected That There Are Guys Like You Who Will Tell The True Facts About The Music I Enjoy.

Matt K. said...

Thank you for going the extra mile to fill in the gaps that are typical with official releases. I own the "Story of Them" 2CD on Deram. I went back and listened to it and with a few exceptions, most of the recordings they used are really bad, but you already know that. Even with my ears, this collection really puts an exclamation point on the complete recording of Them. I couldn't help but to make my own playlist using the UK discography to hear how the songs came out as released. Two things of note: 1. On the Story of Them, the old Deram CD has it complete with no break between part 1 and 2. and it's not from a really bad source. 2. The second BBC version of Gloria has the Brian Matthews intro, but I found that it exists without the intro. It can be found on the 1987 radio series "The 60s at the Beeb" narrated by Andy Peebles.

Prof. Stoned said...

>1. On the Story of Them, the old Deram CD has it complete with no break between part 1 and 2. and it's not from a really bad source.

Edited together from the 'bad' source.

> 2. The second BBC version of Gloria has the Brian Matthews intro, but I found that it exists without the intro. It can be found on the 1987 radio series "The 60s at the Beeb" narrated by Andy Peebles.

Listen again. The intro has been 'fixed' with a bit from further within the song.

Brad Goodman said...

You really did us all a great favor with this one. Thanks a million Prof! You're the absolute best.

Wyd Syatt said...

Thank You Prof,
Could you please tell us what original sources you used for the stereo mixes.
Thanks so much again.

Prof. Stoned said...

My little baby from USA LP Story of Them (London 1977)
Dress in Black from UK LP Them (See for miles, 1984).
Gloria & Here Comes from Rhino compilation CD's from 90's (forgot the titles).
Richard Cory (alt. 1966 mix), Gave my love (Take 9) & Half as much from 2CD Story of Them (Deram 1997) cause that's the only place where they appeared.
The rest from the old London/Deram CD's.

Bobby Sutliff said...

I haven't made my way completely through this but everything I've heard so far is absolutely wonderful! Thanks so very much Prof and keep up the great work!

Bobby Sutliff

Matt K. said...

I'll listen again to the BBC Gloria track. I didn't even consider the intro was a patch from another part of the song...oh well, it's not too bad of a fix. As for "Story of", I thought it sounded "better" than many of the fake stereo and some of the other tracks on the CD that had some wonky flangy sound. More of a straight up mono. I'll be honest, my ears aren't as good as they used to be and I don't have the playback equipment to really make a good assessment, but I do what I can. I trust your reviews, and I really dig your products.

Anonymous said...

Many thanks, great stuff, as always.

Dubley

Kwork said...

Thank you Prof for making an already great official compilation even better with your time, dedication and research. Much appreciated.

Anonymous said...

Excellent work as always, Prof!

MB

rockjazzeclectic said...

Stupendous effort. Beautifully archived and arranged. Thanks.

elhombremalo said...

marvellous! thank you very much - that's my weekend listening sorted!

Ben Walker said...

Where did you get the BBC interviews from? If you've got any full transcription disc transfers I'd love to do some trades!

Prof. Stoned said...

I only got the 2 Them sessions from a fellow fan.

jimbo said...

Thank you

Anonymous said...

Great,great job Prof !
This is Christmas before its time hey ;-)

Thank you very much !
You did it once again...

Unknown said...

Thanks a lot. Really appreciate your work. Have a great Xmas.
Best,
Michael

Aldo Simionato said...

Many thanks Professor. You're great!

Victor said...

I haven't downloaded this set of yours yet, but I just took the last 10-20 minutes or so to read it, and all I have to say is.... wow. I may need to read it again a few more times to absorb every little detail, but forget Wonderwall or the Beatles Christmas Album, this may very well be your coup of the year. I can already tell that much TLC went into this package. Can't wait to get it for myself and hear how it sounds. Thanks very much!

It blows my mind that there have been 2 previous releases of Them that you've done and I've missed... clearly, I've been gone for way too long.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Prof! A superb collection which shows your exhaustive research and knowledge. A fine complement to the official 3CD set which I have. Thanks!

Mat Brewster said...

Thanks a lot.

goodiesguy said...

I love fan's like you, who really do care about making the complete and best copies of material available.

Paul said...

Thank you! You do great work and I appreciate it.

Anonymous said...

This is fabulous, Prof. Thanks!

Alchemist said...

Finally we get to hear this as how it should be officially released.

Thank You so very much!

Tim said...

Thank you for all the hard work you put into this. Much appreciated.

Anonymous said...

Just unbelievable to have this! Thank you deeply. It will now be enjoyed as it was supposed to have been all along. Van the man was fierce; his vocals are giving me goosebumps that are a little harder and longer-lasting than the ones Jagger's Aftermath and Morrison's Matrix Tapes (bootleg NOT official versions) have been giving lately...

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